Is there any really reliable way of sexing female trifaciata (as they are seen in the shop?) I've bought two batches of fish, one of 5 fish and 1 eight fish (from different suppliers) choosing one obvious male and the remainer what I would consider to be females; shorter fins with no lappets on the dorsal & more black on pectorals. I've ended up with 10 definate males and 3 which are quite sensibly keeping their head down but which I think are also male. I suspect there are sex-skewed batches being imported into the UK at the moment - but am I the unluckiest person around or what? Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!