> I would love to try some of the 'black turface'. Any idea where this might > be available? > I've been to the Profile/Turface web-site a few times, but they apparently > don't sell from there - or did I miss something obvious? Scott, thanks for the compliment. Sadly, I don't believe Schultz sells from their website, which is a bummer. I sure would! They could literally sell tons of the stuff! I've yet to see a whole bag of black Turface. The sample I had was good-looking stuff. Dave Gomberg, the man behind Planted Aquarium Magazine (http://www.wcf.com/pam) and an apisto list member, sent me the sample. He's located in San Fran. and may have found it around that area. Dave, can you fill in the missing blanks? Jamie <"\\\>< Greenwood, SC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!