Mike - Thanks. I send him an email to find out. Kenny -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Wise Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:54 AM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: Differences between A. Nijsseni & A. Pandurini? Kenny, I checked with David Soares, who will distribute the English language version in the US, last weekend. He expects Uwe is bringing some copies with him when he attends the NEC convention next month. Check with Dave at apistodave@bendcable.com for costs, etc. The book is well worth having. Mike Wise Stilgar wrote: > Mike - > Thanks for the insight. I don't have Romer's Atlas, but I'm looking for it. > > Kenny > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: Differences between A. Nijsseni & A. Pandurini? > > > Kenny, > > > > This is easy on mature specimens. Male A. panduro > > (it isn't "Pandurini" anymore) > > have pointed front dorsal spines. They aren't > > extended, but they do come to points. On male A. > > nijsseni the front dorsal spines appear flattened > > or truncated, as on A. agassizii. There is an > > excellent set of comparison photos on p. 647 of > > Römer's Atlas. The color pattern is different, > > too. A. panduro has a broad suborbital (cheek) > > stripe while A. nijsseni has a mostly black gill > > cover. The caudal spot on A. panduro is more > > elongate (triangular) and extends well into the > > caudal fin. The same spot on A. nijsseni is > > smaller and more vertically oval in shape. A. > > nijsseni have a flank patch that is quite large > > while MOST A. panduro have a vertical flank bar > > instead. There is however a rare form of A. > > panduro, brought in about 4 years ago by Oliver > > Lucanus, that has a nijsseni-like flank patch. On > > A. panduro (Lucanus Big-blotch), as I call it, the > > flank patch appears mostly in the belly region > > instead of on the mid flank area as in A. > > nijsseni. > > > > Mike Wise > > > > Kenny Vuong wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone -I'm new to the list and would like > > > to know the difference between A. Nijsseni & A. > > > Pandurini? It's very confessing with the > > > description from books. Can someone shed some > > > light into my eyes? I would greatly > > > appreciated.TIA,Kenny > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!