Re: Bolivian Rams

["B Z" <kasseen10@hotmail.com>]

Ray,
I have three females and one male - there is barely any difference in the 
ones I have.  In my experience they have been hard to sex.  My male is 
actually smaller than all three females (one of them is his same age), but I 
don't think it is his sex that keeps him soo.  His fins do trail longer than 
the females, but all my females have trailing fins.  The only for sure 
difference that I have been able to make out is that the female is "bulky" 
or "barrel-chested" where as he appears thinner.  The displaying you 
discribed sounds great!  It would be a for sure thing if you waited to see 
if they pair off - then you know for sure.  If you are able too that is.  :) 
  That is how I actually knew for sure even though I suspected.  Good luck.
Bonny


>From: "Raymond Wong" <myapisto@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
>To: <apisto@listbox.com>
>Subject: Re: Bolivian Rams
>Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:56:12 -0800
>
>Hello michael and rich,
>
>thanks for the suggestions, i do notice one or 2 of them i kinda feel that
>they are males from their size difference, hmm cadual extensions,, i'll 
>take
>a look and see if i can tell the difference, I have the Aqualog SA II i
>believe and if i remember last time i looked at it there are specific
>pictures of a male and a female, but i couldn't really tell the difference,
>I'll pull out the book again just to take a look to see if i can tell in 
>the
>pictures, the reason I'm asking about the sex is I would like to take a 
>pair
>ut of my community tank for breeding but I don't want to place 2 males into
>a 25 gallon and then find out then i come home from school and work that
>one's dead = (
>
>thank-you for the suggestions, any more would be apperciated but I'll
>definitely look at these 2 comments
>
>
>Raymond Wong
>www.sfu.ca/~rww/Aquariumstart.htm
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Brock" <michael@fun-da-mentals.com>
>To: <apisto@listbox.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 3:56 PM
>Subject: RE: Bolivian Rams
>
>
> > I have a great deal of success sexing my Bolivian Rams by their size (my
> > mature males are a bit larger) and the length of the caudal extensions.
>The
> > extensions on my males are considerably longer.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Rich Moore
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:53 PM
> > To: apisto@listbox.com
> > Subject: Re: Bolivian Rams
> >
> >
> > Hi Raymond
> >
> > I have found Bolivian Rams really hard to sex.  Even Linke & Staeck 
>admit
> > that "their appearance....make determination of sex a matter of
>guessing..."
> >
> > However, I have sometimes had success identifying males by their dorsal
>fin,
> > which tends to trail and become longer as they mature (a method 
>suggested
>by
> > L & S).
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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