Hello everybody, for the bolivian rams does the female show/display something like a breeding tube (don't know the proper name could someone please enlighten me?) like an female angelfish when she's about to lay eggs? I believe my female german rams did have a tube sticking out before she bred, but i can't remember becuase that was quite a while ago I also have another question about a bigger dwarf cichlid (hehe) the discus, I seen some radical strains out there, are their offsrings fertile? another words since i'm trading my plant cuttings (e.ozelot if anybody wants any msg me) I'd like to trade for some nice looking discus, but i'm not too sure if discus with man-made strains can breed? (and have fertile off springs) and do the parents keep care of the fry as i've read on the net? thanks everyone Raymond Wong Please Visit My Site! www.sfu.ca/~rww/Aquariumstart.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!