ah rich thanks that's the word papillae i had it on the tip of my tounge, ok hopefully that's what i'm seeing not something else!!!! hmm the thing is my tank is very brightly lit but it is fulyl planted. so i'm not too sure if that would affect/cause them not to breed Raymond > Hi Raymond, > > Yup - both male & female will show their breeding tubes or "papillae". > You'll probably see some displaying, digging, substrate chewing/spitting > too. > > Cheers > Rich > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!