Until recently they were 2 males and 3 females. They do not seem to spawn at all, so it is not a problem of blanks in males (I saw it in one male steindachneri and several male blue rams). Before that it was 1 pair and a pair of borelii. Borelii would happily spawn, but they were larger and I thought the problem was harrassing cacatoos. I removed boreliis, and - nothing! I will try to remove 2 males with next water change and rising the temperature. Thanks Lilia > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike & Diane Wise [SMTP:apistowise@bewellnet.com] > > > Lilia, > > This is very strange. Your pH (6) and hardness are fine, and the tank is > easily > large enough. The males may be "shooting blanks", but I've never heard of > this > problem in apistos. Triple Reds are, however, highly inbred. Your young > angels > are excellent predators on apisto fry, but I can't imagine that they could > pick > off every single fry. The only possible problems that I can see is that > you could > have too many males in the tank. They may be more interested in sparring > with > each other than breeding (unlikely). Remove 2 males and see what happens. > > Mike Wise > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!