J. Miller wrote: The tank they were in is a pretty hevily planted tank, and I am injecting CO2. Is there an effiecient way to add CO2 to the tank without any power source to break up the bubbles. <snip> I inject CO2 into my heavily planted 10 gallon tank with a contraption that was described in the CO2 section of the Krib that uses left over UGF filter parts. Here is a part of the description: "it's an uplift tube from an undergravel filter, but capped at BOTH ends with the fish excluder/bubble directors that usually are mounted on the top. At the bottom, you put a few larger stones so that an airstone (connected to the CO2 source) sits just above the bottom bubble director cap. Then you fill the tube with coarse aquarium gravel up to the 3/4 mark. Cap the assembly off with the other bubble director and connect the airstone tubing to the CO2 source. " The rest of the post (a diagram included) is under the heading of the diffuser and reactor postings. It works really well for me since the tank is small. I grow a variety of plants in it (didiplis diandra, baby's tears, annubias nana, ambulia, crypts, ludwigia repens, bacopa, etc.). The only thing is that the contraption is somewhat noticeable unless you have a nice forest of tall plants to hide it since it is rather tall. I tilt it to keep the CO2 from getting out too fast. The plants are growing fast enough that I need to trim them back every two weeks (every week for ambulia.) Hope this helps. Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!