Mike, 63ppm is the total hardness. I will try the Hydrochloric Acid first and then I will break down and get a RO unit. The idea of aquiring rainbowfish is too scary! I am ready for the eliz male. Let me know prior to sending him so that I can take off that day. Thanks, Francine On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:46:17 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote: > Francine, > > Your water is very strange. High pH water usually has a high carbonate hardness. > Is your dH total hardness (dGH) or carbonate hardness (dKH)? Either way you > should be able to acidify your moderately soft water by adding a few drops of > Hydrochloric Acid to a vat of change water first. I use muriatic acid, which is > an industrial grade HCl. If all else fails, your water would work exceptionally > well for rainbowfish from New Guinea. > > Mike Wise > > FBethea wrote: > > > My tap water is 8.5 with dH coming in at 63 ppms. I am so frustrated at > > this point that I have considered raising Africans. Actually bought > > brichardi and n. mealagris and then realized that I will have to modify for > > their water changes as well. > > > > I do have success with getting my apistos to spawn, but it becomes a > > headache doing water changes. Before I bought this house and expanded my > > fishroom to 27 tanks, I used distilled water for changes. But with the > > amount of tanks I have now, hauling in distilled water at 89 cents a bottle > > would be inane. I sometimes go in the fishroom and just stand there and > > wonder what the hell am I doing this all for. Yet, the c barbatus spawned, > > the bristlenose spawned ,all the apistos and the killis. Unfortunantly, my > > fry survival rate has fallen off and I am greatly discouraged. > > > > I have been photographing my fish and others and have been successful. Maybe > > that is what I should be doing instead of maintaining and breeding species > > that I am unable to perpetuate. > > > > Ready to sell out, > > Francine > > > > On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote: > > > > > Francine, > > > > > > I don't consider anything liquid with a pH 8.5 water; that's more like > > liquid > > > cement! If your water has an equally high carbonate hardness (alkalinity) > > then I > > > would definitely mix the tap water with softer water. Some apistos will > > handle > > > living in your tap water, but I doubt that blackwater species will. > > > > > > BTW the elizabethae Içana male is now over 3" SL with lots of red on the > > body. > > > Let me know when you want him. > > > > > > Mike Wise > > > > > > FBethea wrote: > > > > > > > I am curiuos to learn how people on the list go about acclimating their > > fish > > > > to normal water conditions. > > > > > > > > My tap water is 8.5 and the rain water is 6.0. Will I have to mix the > > rain > > > > water with tap until I get 7.0 thereabouts? > > > > > > > > Francine > > > > > > > > Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > > Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > > Archives"! > > > > Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! 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