Absolutely. The water isn't very stable without it (ph) and trace elements are needed for both fish and plants. It is all around healthier to have than to not haave. My RO/DIO unit takes everything out of the water. I was using Kents RO right, but am now using Seachems equilibrium which I like better. Bonny >From: "Bob Crosby" <rtcrosby@charter.net> >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com >To: <apisto@listbox.com> >Subject: Re: Acclimating to "normal" water conditions >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:33:20 -0600 > >Bonny, > >With the DI component, do you need to add any trace elements to account for >essentially H2 and O only in the RO/DI product? > >Bob > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "B Z" <kasseen10@hotmail.com> >To: <apisto@listbox.com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:33 PM >Subject: Re: Acclimating to "normal" water conditions > > > > Francine, > > I agree with the last 3 people who stated getting an RO unit. I have >VERY > > hard water, but solved the problem with a RO/DIO unit. With 27 tanks in >the > > house, I would think that an RO unit would be a wonderful addition. I >got > > mine online for a very decent price. > > Bonny > > > > > > >From: Dave Gomberg <gomberg@wcf.com> > > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > > >To: apisto@listbox.com > > >Subject: Re: Acclimating to "normal" water conditions > > >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:17:47 -0800 > > > > > >Francine, I am only guessing but I would guess an RO unit might be very > > >helpful to you. Have you looked at that option? Do you live in the >US? > > > What state? Or if abroad, where???? > > > > > > > > >At 04:04 PM 3/6/01 -0800, you wrote: > > >>My tap water is 8.5 with dH coming in at 63 ppms. I am so frustrated >at > > >>this point that I have considered raising Africans. Actually bought > > >>brichardi and n. mealagris and then realized that I will have to >modify > > >>for > > >>their water changes as well. > > >> > > >>I do have success with getting my apistos to spawn, but it becomes a > > >>headache doing water changes. Before I bought this house and expanded >my > > >>fishroom to 27 tanks, I used distilled water for changes. But with >the > > >>amount of tanks I have now, hauling in distilled water at 89 cents a > > >>bottle > > >>would be inane. I sometimes go in the fishroom and just stand there >and > > >>wonder what the hell am I doing this all for. Yet, the c barbatus >spawned, > > >>the bristlenose spawned ,all the apistos and the killis. >Unfortunantly, > > >>my > > >>fry survival rate has fallen off and I am greatly discouraged. > > >> > > >>I have been photographing my fish and others and have been successful. > > >>Maybe > > >>that is what I should be doing instead of maintaining and breeding >species > > >>that I am unable to perpetuate. > > >> > > >>Ready to sell out, > > >>Francine > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote: > > >> > > >> > Francine, > > >> > > > >> > I don't consider anything liquid with a pH 8.5 water; that's more >like > > >>liquid > > >> > cement! If your water has an equally high carbonate hardness > > >>(alkalinity) > > >>then I > > >> > would definitely mix the tap water with softer water. Some apistos > > >>will > > >>handle > > >> > living in your tap water, but I doubt that blackwater species >will. > > >> > > > >> > BTW the elizabethae Içana male is now over 3" SL with lots of red >on > > >>the > > >>body. > > >> > Let me know when you want him. > > >> > > > >> > Mike Wise > > >> > > > >> > FBethea wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > I am curiuos to learn how people on the list go about >acclimating > > >>their > > >>fish > > >> > > to normal water conditions. > > >> > > > > >> > > My tap water is 8.5 and the rain water is 6.0. Will I have to >mix > > >>the > > >>rain > > >> > > water with tap until I get 7.0 thereabouts? > > >> > > > > >> > > Francine > > >> > > > > >> > > Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > >> > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________________ > > >> > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > >> > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >> > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >> > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >> > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing >List > > >>Archives"! > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >> > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >> > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >> > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > > >>Archives"! > > >> > > >> > > >>Fish - Photography - Genealogy > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________________ > > >>Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > >>http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >>For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >>email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >>Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > > >>Archives"! > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Dave Gomberg, San Francisco mailto:gomberg@wcf.com > > >NEW Planted Aquaria Magazine: http://www.wcf.com/pam > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > > >Archives"! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >Archives"! > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, >email apisto-request@listbox.com. >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List >Archives"! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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