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Acid buffers and A. diplotaenia



When dropping the pH with acid, I have found it quite helpfull to let the
water sit for a day.  We use to do this for some blackwater fish, when we
first added acid (seachem buffer-sulfuric acid) it would drop the pH down
really low and then it would gradually drift up and stabilize around 5-6.

It isn't good for the fish to drop low, readjust higher.

So you may want to do a test bucket of water.  See what the pH drops down
to, and where it stabilizes at.  This will depend on the what dissolved
solids you have in the water (ie buffers already present).  Test it over a
few days, so you know exactly what to do for your fish.

As a side note, my A. diplotaenia (fry from ACA 2000) are now ready to
spawn.  You really can see the egg color on the side of the female.  

Kathy

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Mike & Diane Wise wrote:

> Francine,
> 
> Your total hardness is <4║ dGH, which is pretty soft. If you are using tap water
> (not a personal well), I'd bet that you water department is using a chemical base
> to raise the pH in order to prevent corrosion of the water pipe (probably Sodium
> Hydroxide). Definitely use the acid, but check the conductivity if possible. You
> don't want it to get too high either.
> 
> Mike Wise
> 
> FBethea wrote:
> 
> > Mike,
> > 63ppm is the total hardness.  I will try the Hydrochloric Acid first and
> > then I will break down and get a RO unit.  The idea of aquiring rainbowfish
> > is too scary!
> >
> > I am ready for the eliz male.  Let me know prior to sending him so that I
> > can take off that day.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Francine
> >
> > On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:46:17 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote:
> >
> > >  Francine,
> > >
> > >  Your water is very strange. High pH water usually has a high carbonate
> > hardness.
> > >  Is your dH total hardness (dGH) or carbonate hardness (dKH)? Either way
> > you
> > >  should be able to acidify your moderately soft water by adding a few
> > drops of
> > >  Hydrochloric Acid to a vat of change water first. I use muriatic acid,
> > which is
> > >  an industrial grade HCl. If all else fails, your water would work
> > exceptionally
> > >  well for rainbowfish from New Guinea.
> > >
> > >  Mike Wise
> > >
> > >  FBethea wrote:
> > >
> > >  > My tap water is 8.5 with dH coming in at 63 ppms.  I am so frustrated
> > at
> > >  > this point that I have considered raising Africans. Actually bought
> > >  > brichardi and n. mealagris and then realized that I will have to modify
> > for
> > >  > their water changes as well.
> > >  >
> > >  > I do have success with getting my apistos to spawn, but it becomes a
> > >  > headache doing water changes.  Before I bought this house and expanded
> > my
> > >  > fishroom to 27 tanks, I used distilled water for changes.  But with the
> > >  > amount of tanks I have now, hauling in distilled water at 89 cents a
> > bottle
> > >  > would be inane. I sometimes go in the fishroom and just stand there and
> > >  > wonder what the hell am I doing this all for. Yet, the c barbatus
> > spawned,
> > >  > the bristlenose spawned ,all the apistos and the killis.
> > Unfortunantly, my
> > >  > fry survival rate has fallen off and I am greatly discouraged.
> > >  >
> > >  > I have been photographing my fish and others and have been successful.
> > Maybe
> > >  > that is what I should be doing instead of maintaining and breeding
> > species
> > >  > that I am unable to perpetuate.
> > >  >
> > >  > Ready to sell out,
> > >  > Francine
> > >  >
> > >  > On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:51:02 -0700, apisto@listbox.com wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > >  Francine,
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  I don't consider anything liquid with a pH 8.5 water; that's more
> > like
> > >  > liquid
> > >  > >  cement! If your water has an equally high carbonate hardness
> > (alkalinity)
> > >  > then I
> > >  > >  would definitely mix the tap water with softer water. Some apistos
> > will
> > >  > handle
> > >  > >  living in your tap water, but I doubt that blackwater species will.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  BTW the elizabethae Išana male is now over 3" SL with lots of red on
> > the
> > >  > body.
> > >  > >  Let me know when you want him.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  Mike Wise
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  FBethea wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  > I am curiuos to learn how people on the list go about acclimating
> > their
> > >  > fish
> > >  > >  > to normal water conditions.
> > >  > >  >
> > >  > >  > My tap water is 8.5 and the rain water is 6.0.  Will I have to mix
> > the
> > >  > rain
> > >  > >  > water with tap until I get 7.0 thereabouts?
> > >  > >  >
> > >  > >  > Francine
> > >  > >  >
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