In a message dated 10/03/01 05:39:54 GMT Standard Time, BigJohnW@webtv.net writes: > But back to the fish, i did massive water changes last week, about 80% > and then fed heavy this week with live brine shrimp and frozen blood > worms, maybe thats the key?? I use a pretty similar regime to get dwarf cichlids to spawn - feed plenty of frozen bloodworm and frozen BBS for 10 days without a water change, then do a big 50-60% change (after standing, my tapwater is pH 5.8, DH < 0.25, zero nitrite) and hey presto, they spawn. The only problem is lack of tanks for growing fry on. Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!