Steve, I just got back from a week long vacation, but didn't see any response to this question. Since I've kept and bred this species before I will try to give you some answers. I spawned my Buffalo Heads (S. casuarius) in a 20L. It had about an inch (2.5 cm) of sand on the bottom and completely covered in rock and driftwood caves overgrown by Java Moss. They bred in my tap water (dGH 3º, dKH <2º) at pH 6.5 and 79ºF (26ºC). I used air driven sponge filters that moved a lot of water. Since these fish come from water with high rates of flow, they seem to prefer a lot of motion in their water. I found that the real trick to breeding success is to find a compatible pair. I started with 6 young fish and let them pick out their own mates. Before this I'd always tried to force a male & female to pair off. This didn't work for me. My pair behaved very much like apistos - the female took care of the eggs and fry while the male defended the breeding territory. In this set up I often had 2 or 3 different broods of juvenile fish. The adults would drive off the older fry when they started breeding again, but didn't seem to try to kill them. Hope this helps. Mike Wise Kim Rogers or Steve Hatfield wrote: > Hello AllI just got some steatocranus casarius > anyone out there ever keep this fish?? any > spawning suggestions would be appreciated Thanks > Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!