hi, as far as i'm concern i was either puting the fish in boiling water or hiting it hard while in the net. Both are fast and efficient. As a matter of fact none of us wants to be a barbarian or torture our fish neither do we want them to suffer if we can avoid that. Now, we are not dealing with human either but with animals. I wish we had something equivalent to Ether that we could use for fish. Maybe be putting them in a bag with a tissue spread with Ether works, i do not know. Maybe the vodka stuff is an equivalent of Ether in the way it works. But then, vodka is expensive and at what pH and what hardness do we need it!! ;-) Just kidding. !!! take care FLI USA Yvan Alleau 712 Kings boulevard 97330 Corvallis, Oregon home # 738-0606 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely ! yalleau@oce.orst.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" ----- Original Message ----- From: "cameron" <ccase22@mail.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Killing fish humanely > This was a lengthy discussion on one of the rec.aquaria.* newsgroups a > few weeks ago. The consensus (including one vet who said it is the best > alternative to comercial anesthesia) was to put the fish in a container > of vodka. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, this was diluted a bit > with water. This way the fish slowly goes to sleep before it stops > breathing. There were lots of methods mentioned, some far from humane, > but the "vodka nap" was the consensus (followed way behind by freezing, > which I for one wouldn't do). Also, it was apparently important to use > vodka, not just any sort of alcohol. > > Cameron > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!