The four species listed at the FishBase (www.fishbase.org) are E. geryi, E. junki, E. mitopterus, and E. pulcher. The addresses are as follows http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=48849&genusname=Elachocharax&speciesname=geryi http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=48850&genusname=Elachocharax&speciesname=junki http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=48851&genusname=Elachocharax&speciesname=mitopterus http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=48882&genusname=Elachocharax&speciesname=pulcher I don't know how much useful information these entries really give, but if you really want more, the person who entered these species into the FishBase Collection is Christine Marie V. Casal, and her email address is c.casal@cgiar.org and according to http://www.fishbase.org/Collaborators/CollaboratorSummary.cfm?ID=97 she is in the Philippines. It is possible that she can give you more information. HTH Cameron ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!