I don't have much faith in "quick cure remedies".... nothing replaces water changes. Also, I agree with the person that commented about the types of fish you have. Even if you get through the cycle succesfuly.... in the long run that selection of fishes won't work. Be well, Rich JerrCarol@aol.com wrote: > > Rich not real close but, what about just using some fritz-zime? > JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!