As a note in relation to Mike's statement... I had a pair of C. regani in a 125g tank with some full grown aggies and other dwarfs like Kribs and A. thomasi. The tank was planted fairly well and they all had their own little holes and hangouts. The pike were fairly passive. This would all change the minute fry would appear in the tank. The pike would take on a whole new attitude. They would hide in the chain swords and wait for the group of fry to come within range. Then, flash, the fry cloud scattered and the pikes had a mouth full. As soon as the fry were gone, or became so large that they weren't such an easy target, the pike changed back to their "normal" behavior. It was all very interesting to watch. Not to good on my fry survival rates as the pike are very efficient but interesting none the less. Just a little observation I thought might fit in... Ken Roese Commercial Point, Oh ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!