David, Sounds like a great project. Years ago, in Florida, you could buy 1/2", 3/4", 7/8", and 1" marine plywood (no voids) in 4'x10' sheets. It was not cheap, even then, but could be special ordered. This might certainly be a cost effective alternative to glass. If available, the 10' sheet would complete an 8' tank including the ends, or a 10' tank short the ends. Basically all the glass that would be required would be for the front viewing pane(s) and top cutouts for light(s). I don't know where you are located, but if there is a custom boat yard within driving distance you might check with them. Do keep us posted on the progress of this project, please. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of David A. Youngker > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:22 PM > To: Apistogramma Mailing List > Subject: Apisto Predators > > > I'm wondering if there's a reference detailing predatory behavior > in Apisto > environments. I'd already considered a "true- to- biotope" tank > when the Rio > Negro thread appeared, but with a slight "twist". > > The greatest advantage to studying Apistogramma from a behavioral > standpoint > is obviously their size - it enables a much larger sample within the > confines of available space. Since that's not problematic here, > the next one > to solve is the "artificiality" of the study environment. Does > the observed > response to a stimulus in the study represent natural or adaptive > behavior? > If the behavior is adaptive, can the correct connections be made between > stimulus and response? That sort of thing. > > The greatest advantage to performing volunteer work at the Aquarium is the > chance to compare notes on large tank maintenance. > > Put those together with some experience and the real need to change > "biotopes" myself, and you get a place with a garage... > > In addition to setting up my cultures again, I'd like to dedicate > one of the > garage walls to a biotope tank. No, no - I only mentioned the Aquarium in > passing, I don't intend to rebuild it. I _would_ like a glass- fronted > plywood tank that's 2 feet square on the ends or so, but perhaps > 8 - 10 feet > long - reminiscent of the "counter" tanks you see in some of the "old- > style" LFSs. Since it would be in a garage, where it could set > out from the > wall rather than against it, I might even go to 3 feet wide with the extra > access. > > Set it up, stock it with a specific Apisto, and some naturally- occurring > "dither / target" companions. Give everyone a fair amount of time to get > "established". Introduce a single predator. > > Now, it's not too difficult to believe that even a large tank couldn't > support enough of a population of prey to feed an Oscar (thank god they > aren't part of the plan). But I'm wondering - how about one of the Dwarf > Pikes? One that would be as pretty well satisfied with a couple > of Tetras a > week as it would a single Apisto. > > That is, once it gets past the "kid in the candy store" stage... > > -Y- > > David A. Youngker > nestor10@mindspring.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!