Duh, typo, make that 2 sheets. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Ray McCaleb > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:47 AM > To: apisto@listbox.com > Subject: RE: Apisto Predators > > > David, > Sounds like a great project. Years ago, in Florida, you could buy 1/2", > 3/4", 7/8", and 1" marine plywood (no voids) in 4'x10' sheets. It was not > cheap, even then, but could be special ordered. This might certainly be a > cost effective alternative to glass. If available, the 10' sheet would > complete an 8' tank including the ends, or a 10' tank short the ends. > Basically all the glass that would be required would be for the front > viewing pane(s) and top cutouts for light(s). I don't know where you are > located, but if there is a custom boat yard within driving distance you > might check with them. Do keep us posted on the progress of this project, > please. > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of David A. Youngker > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:22 PM > > To: Apistogramma Mailing List > > Subject: Apisto Predators > > > > > > I'm wondering if there's a reference detailing predatory behavior > > in Apisto > > environments. I'd already considered a "true- to- biotope" tank > > when the Rio > > Negro thread appeared, but with a slight "twist". > > > > The greatest advantage to studying Apistogramma from a behavioral > > standpoint > > is obviously their size - it enables a much larger sample within the > > confines of available space. Since that's not problematic here, > > the next one > > to solve is the "artificiality" of the study environment. Does > > the observed > > response to a stimulus in the study represent natural or adaptive > > behavior? > > If the behavior is adaptive, can the correct connections be made between > > stimulus and response? That sort of thing. > > > > The greatest advantage to performing volunteer work at the > Aquarium is the > > chance to compare notes on large tank maintenance. > > > > Put those together with some experience and the real need to change > > "biotopes" myself, and you get a place with a garage... > > > > In addition to setting up my cultures again, I'd like to dedicate > > one of the > > garage walls to a biotope tank. No, no - I only mentioned the > Aquarium in > > passing, I don't intend to rebuild it. I _would_ like a glass- fronted > > plywood tank that's 2 feet square on the ends or so, but perhaps > > 8 - 10 feet > > long - reminiscent of the "counter" tanks you see in some of the "old- > > style" LFSs. Since it would be in a garage, where it could set > > out from the > > wall rather than against it, I might even go to 3 feet wide > with the extra > > access. > > > > Set it up, stock it with a specific Apisto, and some naturally- > occurring > > "dither / target" companions. Give everyone a fair amount of time to get > > "established". Introduce a single predator. > > > > Now, it's not too difficult to believe that even a large tank couldn't > > support enough of a population of prey to feed an Oscar (thank god they > > aren't part of the plan). But I'm wondering - how about one of the Dwarf > > Pikes? One that would be as pretty well satisfied with a couple > > of Tetras a > > week as it would a single Apisto. > > > > That is, once it gets past the "kid in the candy store" stage... > > > > -Y- > > > > David A. Youngker > > nestor10@mindspring.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!