Yaaaaayy! I've finally succeeded with my Apistogramma sp. cf pulchra! I currently have a trio in a 20 gal high, along with a group of pencilfish. The tank is planted with java fern and moss as well as a few plastic plants. The female has laid eggs frequently in the past, but I've never had her get any further. They've always been eaten (I assume). I thought the water might be too hard, so I've been doing straight R/O water changes. I haven't tested the water recently, but previous to the last change the TDS was at 79 on my Hanna tester. So this evening, I was showing a curious neighbour around the fish room (people had seen the glow coming from the basement windows and had assumed hydroponics op!) when I glanced in the pulchra tank - and saw her escorting approximately 12 fry around the java moss! I'm so excited! However, this brings me to my question. The fish were due for a water change tonight. But I'm a little hesitant due to the new fry. Should I? This question extends to more than one tank. (My A. hoingnei and A. sp. galaxy 3 'Marado' are also in the family way). She's very protective, and most of the time I can't even see the fry. The substrate is a blondish coloured sand, so they really don't stand out. Comments please! Dominic Stones Richmond Hill, Ontario ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!