Zman is right, The fish place on Robinson street in North Tonowanda is by far the best pet store in the Northeastern US. 300 + tanks full of everything. I live 5.5 hours away and make the drive every couple of months just to see what they have. They always have at least 5 different species of apistos and normally several westies in stock. If ya want nice tetras and stuff too, cant beat their prices. NOOOO i dont work there or own the place either . lol John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!