Theresa, I think you got it! Now to start not only seeing visions..but making those visions happen! Good Luck on the future tanks, you'll have some more in the near future:) A. Cacatuoides is a very flashy fish, and fairly hardy and a great first apisto for spawning! Have fun! Mike Chappell -------Three Guys Aquatics------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.