I witnessed something interesting last night. I have a trio of very nice A. macmasteri (thanks Big John!) that spawned about 2 weeks ago. Instead of using any of the clay pot caves I provided for this purpose, the female chose the center of the underside of a jungle sponge filter that was not sitting completely flat on the gravel. I was out for a few days, and so I don't know if the female ate the eggs, or lost the wigglers, but I did not find any fry when I got home. Last night, I saw the male pushing both females around the tank and hanging out by the same spot by the filter. Knowing that it was now far too long for there to be wigglers or fry, I was surprised. I checked, and low and behold, there were a few eggs in the same spot as before. But now, the male is doing the protecting. This is the first time I have ever seen an apisto male take egg duty exclusively. Any other, similar observations? Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.