Re: to david sanchez

[David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com>]

Hi Yvan my e-mail address is
apistogrammasetc@yahoo.com I have your address so ill
send you some riccia in the mail good luck with the
A.jurensis nice to have someone with a breeders
attutde on here :) good luck

Dave


--- Yvan Alleau <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU> wrote:
> dave,
> could you please give me your e-mail?
> thanks
> talk to you soon
> 
>  Yvan Alleau
> 712 N.W Kings Blvd
> Corvallis, OR 97330
> College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> Oregon State University
> office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely!
> yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> 
> "When you're far from everything, you're getting
> closer to the essential"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of
> David Sanchez
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:45 AM
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: RE: A.jururensis
> 
> 
> A very good fish friend of mine is a Retired
> scientist
> and he has a little lab lab scopes everything so
> it's
> been a way for us to further learn about our hobby.
> Its not that hard to see really. Bacteria is often
> seen as a mass of tiny thinbs massing around in the
> gut and intestines whereas parasites really stick
> out
> because of their size. You just need to examine the
> major organs. Perhaps I take for granted what I have
> learned but once youve done a couple you get the
> hang
> of it. My frined Glen is more scientifuc about
> things
> but for me i just need to know whether its a
> parasite
> or bacteria etc. For us we can learn allot from just
> doing some obvious looking around. The book Hand
> Book
> of Fish diseases by TFH is a great book as well as
> the
> companion Discus Health. Yes just contact me off
> list
> if you want the riccia ill send you some. once you
> get
> it going it can take over.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> --- Yvan Alleau <yalleau@OCE.ORST.EDU> wrote:
> > hi david,
> > could you please contact me off list for the
> riccia?
> > ok, i'll be careful and check for any symptoms.
> > where did you learn to do those necropsys?
> > I did a few of those with a friend who is
> > veterinarian specialized in fish
> > back when in France and i must say that what was
> > obvious for him was
> > difficult to see for me. only after thorough
> > description of what to be seen
> > could i really see!
> > Anyooo, thanks all for your help.
> > 
> > maybe next time i'll talk about juruensis will be
> > for good newly swimming
> > news!
> > take care
> > 
> >  Yvan Alleau
> > 712 N.W Kings Blvd
> > Corvallis, OR 97330
> > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
> > Oregon State University
> > office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely!
> > yalleau@oce.orst.edu
> > 
> > "When you're far from everything, you're getting
> > closer to the essential"
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf
> Of
> > David Sanchez
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:15 PM
> > To: apisto@listbox.com
> > Subject: RE: A.jururensis
> > 
> > 
> > Yvan sounds like disease may not be an imediate
> > concern for you as they seem healthy. I will say
> it
> > is
> > my opinion all wild fish are filled with
> parasites!
> > It
> > amazes me that even healthy fish will have
> internal
> > bugs of some kind. The thing is if they get
> stressed
> > enough to trigger a bad out break or secoundary
> > bacterial infections. I love wild fish and I find
> > that
> > they breed more readily. I only say this because
> > having done many necropsys on various wild South
> > American fish there is always something. So dont
> > totaly rule that out because you never know. If we
> > provide good water quality and a secure
> environment
> > our little Apistos are pretty tough.
> > 
> >  I have  riccia your welcome to it if you like.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > --- J Miller <ruddigar_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Yvan,
> > >
> > >   I agree with David.  It sounds like your fish
> > are
> > > sick.  If they are
> > > wild caught, again like David said, they
> probably
> > > have a parasitic
> > > infection.  Also, depending on the holding
> > > facilities where you got
> > > them, they could have a bacterial infection -
> poor
> > > water quality is
> > > often a cause of this.
> > >   Until we can figure out what is the problem, I
> > > would suggest keeping
> > > up the water changes, and perhaps even adding an
> > > airstone to keep the
> > > O2 levels up.
> > >
> > > I pray that they'll make it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > J. Miller
> > > Edmonton, AB, Can.
> > >
> > > Trade aquatic plants on
> > > The Plant Trading Board
> > >
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> > >
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