...GREAT Max.......remember....up at 85 degrees make sure you have a GOOD accurate thermometer...you are at a high limit!! Your pics are TREMENDOUS...........just tremendous! I have a Cool Pic 900 but can't touch your results.........how close to the glass is your camera? Mike > Mike, > Don't go into hibernation yet,please.BTW,I followed your advise from > yesterday and raised the temp in my Ram tank to 85F.The female moved her > eggs into a hollow that she and the male dug in the sand.It was really fun > to watch as male and female were taking turns fanning the eggs. I found that > the eggs have hatched later in the evening and the male started to protect > the wigglers from the female.The male chased the female all over the tank > this morning and I removed her.So far everything seems fine.Microworms are > ready,BBS ready, feeding the hongsloi fry in the tank next to the Rams:). > I never really committed myself to breed/keep M.ramirezi.I admit they are > really a fun species to watch with interesting behavior > ..I hope to be able to show pictures of free swimmers soon. > Max who lurks and posts here for a few years now, too and remembers the > great viejita II wars of 98(?),hehehe. > Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals at: > http://clix.to/Apisto > > > > >From: mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com > >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com > >To: apisto@listbox.com > >Subject: Re: blue ram parenting behavior? P.S. > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:01:09 US/Eastern > > > >Folks....I will make this shorter than the last message I wrote. Since I > >have > >been on this list, 4 years, maybe more, I think the single most asked > >question > >on the list is "how can I make my rams not eat their babies"........I > >attempted > >to give an answer that would help some of you with an alternate method, > >because > >a bunch of you seem to be havng trouble......Mr Sanchez says I am nuts (my > >words). He says that it is easy...put them in a 5 gallon and leave the > >temperature a 78 degrees.......good luck folks....that's been your problem > >for > >the last bunch of years. > > > >....I tried to offer an alternate solution to your problems.....sorry to > >have > >bothered the list.......I will go into hibernation for another 2-3 years > >and > >acquiesce to better breeders than I. > > > >Mike > > > > > > > > > one last note the reason Breeders are crossing back to > > > wild fish is to get more genetic variations and to get > > > good parenting behviors. Again this is old news and a > > > visit to some of the better Angel fish and Discus > > > sites and clubs will reveal this. I have been involved > > > in some of these groups and much of their research is > > > applicable to us as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > >For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.