RE: drip method

["Mike" <mikeymeyer@sprintmail.com>]

JFK is John Kuhns in Kansas City.  He owns a local wholesale company called
EECHO.  If anyone needs more info, let me know and I'll get you his email
address.  I know he subscribes to the catfish list, but I haven't ever seen
him post on the Apisto list.  I do know he has a new product out that is
comparable to Novaqua and Amquel combined.
Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Scott
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:46 AM
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: Re: drip method
>
>
> THe guy who came up with this is the guy that invented
> Amquel and Ammo-lock. He spoke at one of our meetings
> and he is extremely knowledgeable about chemistry. I
> remember his initials were JFK or something similar
> but for the life of me I cannot remember is name. IT
> does make total sense though. He also talked about the
> myth of pH shock. I will tell you this, when I first
> heard this idea was when Amquel was first released,
> the store I worked at used a method of adding tank
> water to the bags to acclimate fish. After speaking
> with him we switched to removing the fish from the
> water they were in entirely and just dumping htem in
> the tank. We experienced a dramatic decrease in deaths
> of fish in the first 24 hours. I have used that method
> ever since with every type of fish imaginable and have
> had no problems with it.
>
>
>
>
> --- Mike Jacobs <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > .....Bingo Eric.....that's exactly what I've heard
> > and I have never
> > experienced it so in my small little world it
> > doesn't happen but I really
> > didn't want to open anything up to an argument.
> > Some really big time
> > aquarists have said that so I am standing neutral on
> > the point......never
> > experienced it but possible I suppose........great
> > question..............any
> > one ever had it happen?
> >
> > ............John.......you gave the "Blue Goop" to
> > Cleveland.........or are
> > they just dipping some stuff from the lake???
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Jacobs
> > Center for Advanced Technologies
> > High School Math Instructor
> > St. Pete, Fl.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:37 PM
> > Subject: drip method
> >
> >
> > > The one and only caveat I've ever heard with the
> > "drip" method I thought
> > > was kind of fascinating: Let's say you take home a
> > bag of fish with low
> > > hardness (say R/O) water.  The residual fish waste
> > in the water weakly
> > > acidifies the water. Now you take the bag and
> > start to drip in harder
> > > tapwater.  Even a small bit of the buffered water
> > will start to raise the
> > > pH.  As the pH is raised, the nitrogenous waste in
> > the form of ammonium
> > > (NH4+) starts getting converted to the deadly
> > ammonia (NH3), possibly at a
> > > faster rate than the old water is diluted by the
> > incoming clean water.
> > > Yipe!
> > >
> > > So, I am curious, I have heard this particular bit
> > of theoretical
> > > chemistry a few times.  Has anyone actually
> > experienced this when bringing
> > > a fish home?
> > >
> > >   - Erik
> > >
> > > --
> > > Erik Olson
> > > erik at thekrib dot com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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