hi, product from Sera are very reliable at least those for pH, nitrate, nitrite, iron and # hardness. take care Yvan Alleau 712 N.W Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely! yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of TD7894@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:44 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: me and my ph and water problems Hello list people, I am totally confused about my water but one thing is sure I need a decent pH test kit. Can any one recommend a good brand? Can I get it from Petwarehouse or That Pet Place? I think that I need to get a bare ten gallon and experiment with it. I have a Hagen kh test kit. Is this okay? In the mean time the rams have spawned again just like clock work. Thanks Teresa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.