I've seen the Bolivian Rams (I don't know there corect name), and they were much larger then the papiliochromis ramirezi that i have observed. Do the same rules for sexing bolivians apply to papiliochromis ramirezi? Thanks for your patience, Steve --- Joe Anderson <the_submariner@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'd agree with these distinctions. At a young age, > they seem rather diff to > sex, but older males do develp longer fin extensions > and of course are > larger. I had a breeding "pair" for a while before > I tired of them and > there is some distinction observable over time as to > size and fin length > click here for a couple pics of mine: > http://www.aquaticlounge.aquariumplants.cx/alti.html > The far left pic is def the male, If I remember > correctly ,the middle pic is > of a female > I need to reload the pics again, they look a little > sloppy on the upload, > but they are viewable currently. > > Joe > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Chris Jewell" > <chris@jewell68.freeserve.co.uk> > Whilst we are on the subject, does anyone have > reliabel sexing data for > Papiliochromis altispinosa? > I'm assuming the slightly larger fish with these fin > extensions and stronger > colouration is the male. > Cheers > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.