My Nijsenni females (three of them have so far survived my problems) seem to show the amount of black on their bodies in relation to their dominance in the tank, the dominant one continually shows black at all the appropriate points, the sub-dom shows some and the smallest one shows none, is this a general rule or is this just coincidence? Back to the problems story... I've FINALLY managed to get so Flubendazole and will start treatment when I get home, I hope that it works. I lost my last remaining Rupununi male on Tuesday, I just hope that I get a male out of the fry that I have left (7 remaining). I have also managed to get some Prazinquantel but it comes with Febantel and Pirantel, doe sanybody know what effect these would have on Apistos? If I get no answer I'll try it out on my Guppies first, I've got too many as it stands;-) C:-)lin They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled and sure enough... -------------------------------------------------------- You too can have your own email address from Eurosport. http://www.eurosport.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.