RE: Why we use oak leaves instead of maple leaves

["Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>]

Hi bill,
i've always find that nice and cool to see leaves in tanks but never tried
in my display tank for maintenance issues.
Could you send us pictures of your tanks with leaves in? Does anyone have
such pictures?
What kind of inconvenience do you have with them?
Also, why do you boil them before using them: such a treatment would get
read of a lot of tanin and other compounds. I bet the boiling water would be
pretty dark. Are you just willing to get red of microorganisms?
thanks for your lights!
c ya

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
[mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Max Gallade
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:04 PM
To: apisto@listbox.com
Subject: Re: Why we use oak leaves instead of maple leaves


Bill,
Now I'm curious.I might try some testing when I replace the deteriorated Oak
leaves in one of my tanks with new ones.The only meters I have are Ph and
TDS though.
Like I said before ,I like the looks of Oak leaves in my tanks.They last
about 1/4 year before they deteriorate.I leave the debris in the tank (I get
most of it during maintenance anyways)and drop new boiled dead leaves on top
of it.
Max

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>From: "William Vannerson" <William_Vannerson@ama-assn.org>
>Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
>To: <apisto@listbox.com>
>Subject: Re: Why we use oak leaves instead of maple leaves
>Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:35:56 -0600
>
> >>>A Discus breeder once told me that he preferred Maple over Oak leaves
>because of the higher acid contents of the Maple
>leaves.I'm sure he didn't know what you came across here.<<<
>
>  I made an assumption that slowly deteriorating oak leaves would provide a
>more acidic environment than maple leaves.  I based that purely on the
>elements mentioned by Curtis in his text.  But his point of view was
>describing the impact on leaf litter in the southern mesic forests of
>Wisconsin, not Bill's 30 gallon aquarium in Illinois <s>.  There may be
>other mechanisms at work that can alter the pH of water with maple leaves.
>Perhaps we should do some testing.
>
>But I'm fairly sure that the base elements he cites that contribute to
>quick destruction on the forest floor, also contribute to quick destruction
>in the aquarium.
>
>Bill Vannerson
>McHenry, IL
>http://vannerson.home.att.net/


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