Group I've got a pair (or atleast what I assume to be a pair) of these in a 29G tank, when I bought them they were a little thin and imature, so thought I would "fatten them up". Ph is just under 7, soft water (gH 4) temp around 80f, lots of planting, plant pots and wood. They are in there with some corydoras, ancistrus and tetras. In the last few weeks the fish have coloured up very well, and have started staying close to each other, being slightly terretorial and digging pits in the sand substrate, which they deffend for a few days then abondon to another. Atleast one of the fish has a breeding tube lowered. Am I correct in thinking they are attempting to spawn, but the presence of the other fish is distubing them too much? I'm swamped with fry at the moment but hope to have a 17G breeder setup for them soon, just wanted to check with some experienced types that I'm thinking straight!! Thanks for any comment Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.