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Re: A.cacatuoides cross breeding questions
Max..........that's it!!! If they would carry the elongated caudal open
more of the time I think it would be really nifty but I don't want them to
get to the extent that some of the "super-viel" angels have gotten
to.....can't even swim.............
..............damn you take good photos....I am seriously
jealous........I've got a Nikon 950 ........but I can't do
that.............I'm gonna have to go back to reading your picture taking
page!.....maybe your settings on the camera..........I can't get that close
without washing everything out with flash! Do you have anything such as a
"close-up" lens on there?????
Mike
Mike Jacobs
Center for Advanced Technologies
High School Math Instructor
St. Pete, Fl.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: A.cacatuoides cross breeding questions
> Mike,
> I found three pictures of two different A.cacatuoides males with the
> elongated caudal fin trait.They're posted in the first Album on the
pictures
> page. I used the more colorful male as a breeder.
> Are those the same traits you were talking about?
> Take care
> Max
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>
>
> >From: "Max Gallade" <mgallade@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> >To: apisto@listbox.com
> >Subject: Re: A.cacatuoides cross breeding questions
> >Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:46:42 +0000
> >
> >Mike,
> >Hmm,that's interesting.My fry are still to small to tell if they have
> >elongated caudals.
> >I noticed that one male is starting to color up.
> >I did notice the elongated caudal in offsprings from the original pair I
> >got
> >from you.I kind of like it.Some males had very long caudal extensions
with
> >unbelievable long dorsal lappets.One of those males became the Alpha male
> >of
> >the group.
> >I kept the males with elongated caudals and tried to continue that
trait.I
> >have a batch triple reds growing out right now that I bred for the longer
> >caudal.I don't know if the trait will be present ,though.They are about
5mm
> >right now.I have to check for photos I might have of those.I'll post them
> >on
> >my website.
> >I noticed that only one male of my triple red /orange flash crossbreeds
is
> >starting to color up in his caudal.I probably know more about their
> >coloration in a few weeks.
> >Another reason for the spine deformities could be the way I caught them
out
> >of the breeding tank.I used a 3/4" vacuum hose to suck them up after the
> >female decided to make a lunch out of her fry.Maybe she knew something
> >wasn't right with them?I'll grow them out and they probably end up in my
> >33g
> >"Runt Dump" at work.
> >Thanks for your reply
> >Max
> >
> >
> >
> >Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals at:
> >http://clix.to/Apisto
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com
> >>Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
> >>To: apisto@listbox.com
> >>Subject: Re: A.cacatuoides cross breeding questions
> >>Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:17:48 US/Eastern
> >>
> >>Max......I made the same cross a while back. I still have the cross
going
> >>right now. There seems be several things happening...and still
> >>happening.
> >>The coloration on the males is everything from full 3xred to full orange
> >>flash. Some have 3xred dorsals and red flash orange caudals.....some
have
> >>dorsals that are 1/2 orange and finish up as a normal 3x
red.....likewise
> >>on
> >>the caudal and anal......quite a mix!!!! I made no attempt to control
> >>which
> >>male made the F2 cross and I have the same mix of fish coloration in the
> >>F2's
> >>(F0 being original....not wild...not suppose to use "F" that
> >>way!!)........but
> >>I did not get any misshapen fry. Have you noticed that some of the
orange
> >>flash carry an enlongated caudal?????.......there is a mix of longer
> >>caudals in
> >>the fry. I am not certain if I like that trait?!
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > I have a question regarding crossing A.cacatuoides triple red with
> >>orange
> >> > flash :
> >> > I managed to get a batch of fry from a red flash female and a triple
> >>red
> >> > male.I noticed spinal and fin deformations in some of the fry.I
don't
> >>know
> >> > if this is due to a small Blue Green Algae infestation in the
breeding
> >>tank
> >> > or if those two strains aren't compatible?The fry reached about
8-10mm
> >>in TL
> >> > now. 30-40% start to show the deformations . I also wonder about
their
> >> > coloration.Anybody else ever tried to cross breed the two?
> >> > On another note:I went to one of our biggest LFS yesterday for food
and
> >> > supplies.I always check their tanks for new fish.
> >> > Boy, I wish I had the 180 bucks for some of the gorgeous WC Discus
they
> >>got
> >> > in now:(.
> >> > Fortunately the new owner stocks some Apistos and they always have a
> >>nice
> >> > selection now.
> >> > I learned yesterday that Apisto knowledge can save you a lot of
money.
> >> > They had one tank with" A.ortmanni wc" for $3.99.I found
> >>"A.steindachneri"
> >> > two tanks down the line for $39.99/pair.Of course those were both
> >> > A.steindachneri,the ones for 3.99 looked like they were in better
> >>health
> >> > then the 39.99 ones.Go figure:).Unfortunately,they only had males
> >>left,I'm
> >> > looking for a female.
> >> > Have fun at the OCA .I wish we could be there.
> >> > Max
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Visit "The Digital Aquarium" and L&M Tropicals at:
> >> > http://clix.to/Apisto
> >> >
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