Ok Ok I have to admit, last night, curiousity got the better of me. I watched the female sp Maulbruter, who has been yellowing up and guarding a flower pot cave for a few days now, so I finally couldnt stand the pressure anymore and lifted the flower pot up gently........ And............ No eggs..... 8-( Oh well..... shes bright yellow..... maybe meaning she wants to spawn soon..... giving the male signals that shes ready. Im keeping my fingers crossed..... Maybe a birthday gift...... ( my birthday is January 3rd) wish me luck.... Tundra John OHHHH Merry Christmas everyone..... Happy Hanukah and Happy New Years.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.