hi mike, hummm...there's somthing i didn't get at the nd of your e-mail: "Add about 5 years of so to that 10 of his, I've have used this technique and works well". Is this a saying or what! sorry but i'm not from here :-) thanks everybody for your help: dolomite it will be! c you Yvan Alleau 712 N.W Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222) # 737-3649, to be used wisely! PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Three Guys Aquatics Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:44 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: increasing pH Lil John, You still breathin up in the frozen tundra? Welp, this is true on the difference in longevity. Baking soda will give you a very quick fix, instant because of surface area of the poder, comparing to the other uses. As well as when used in this form, you don't have a good buffer, so the pH will swing from change to change, using the dolomite/crushed coral, you are using a more sustained release buffer, that will keep it much more consitant over the long run, so if your lookin to get outa a jam in a quick, baking soda, but if your shooting to maintain a tank, go John's way. Add about 5 years of so to that 10 of his, I've have used this technique and works well! Mike Chappell ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wubbolt" <BigJohnW@webtv.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: Re: increasing pH > Well here goes my 2 cents worth on this topic. > > I have extremely soft acidic water... when i need to have a tank that > doesnt go too far down in pH.... anything below 6.0.... i add alittle > dolomite into the tank. If i am using a bare bottom tank set up , i > put about 1/2 cup worth in a little jar and sit the jar in the corner of > the tank. This leaches off carbonate hardness, which will keep the > water from being too soft and also keeps the pH up and from going too > acidic. No this doesnt cause my tanks to be hard and alkaline. If > used in small amounts, this has the perfect desired effect without > having a bouncing up and down pH like you will have using sodium > bicarbonate. Using baking soda, is a temporary fix.. it will bounce > back up with water changes and also as time goes bye. > > Hence my suggestion , use alittle baby food jar with some dolomite or > crushed coral in it and set it somewhere in the corner of your tank. > I've been doing this for over ten years to keep my tanks stable. > > Little John > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.