Re: ram fry, sigh

[mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com]

What Neil is saying folks brings up the real problem with rams and ram fry and 
why, I think, so many people have trouble at first with ram fry and rams in 
general.

Rams, fry or adult, need good clean water.....to be really successful and to 
try and put a lot of artifical dry food (and some of them are getting very 
good) in with the ram fry is a double edged sword.  If you are not careful with 
non-live food for ram fry you might just start loosing them for no apparent 
reason.  That's why I always cringe a bit when people want to raise ram fry on 
powdered food.  If that's all you have then fine, but keep it clean.  Certainly 
it can and has been done with dry foods but it needs to be clean.....what ever 
that means to you double it...the clean.....;-)

Also I've seen folks adding enough live bbshrimp to choke a horse......once the 
rams are free swimming add some snails to keep the bottom of the tank 
clean....and like Neil said also........a fully matured sponge filter can 
sometimes save the day for some small crittes for the fry to chew on while you 
are not there.............change the water!!!!!

Mike



> I am new to the list, but not too long ago I saw a presentation by Al Casrto, 
> who broke down bbs. Apparently, there are 3 types of bbs eggs. The largest is 
> Utah, which is 3 times larger than San Francisco, which is 3 times larger 
> than Southern Hemisphere eggs (the smallest). He was using these for tetra 
> fry, which are, in general, pretty darn small-mouthed. I don't have any 
> suggestions where to come across them, but I believe that they are pretty 
> hard to find and expensive.
> I have found that Rams can usually take bbs of the SF type right away, if you 
> take care to harvest them in about 18 hours. In addition to (the other 
> suggestion) Java Moss and general infusoria from a sponge filter that is 
> already in the tank at mediocre levels, this can usually support the food 
> requirements of Ram fry during the crucial first few days.    Neil
> 
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