thanks for all the replies, guys. does anyone know the water parameters in lake kivu? i understand victoria's water is less hard and alkaline than malawi and tanganyka. as for victorians, Astatotilapia burtonii are still around, i think. tsuh yang > Some years ago, Lake Victorian cichlids were being brought in because of th > excitement over the possible extinction of many Lake Victorian species. I > can't find many of these cichlids anymore--they were popular for a while but > it seemed to be a fad. Around the same time, there were some Lake Kivu > haplochromines that were brought in. If you talk to old-timers, lots of > fish have appeared in the hobby and almost disappeared for lack of interest. > Most of the haplochromines don't have enough appeal and after breeding a > bunch of them, they became hard to sell/dispose. You can only sell so many > at the club auction, so the prices dropped. LFS carried a few Lake > Victorians for a while, but now, I don't remember having seen any in stores > in recent memory. > > >There was recently a brief discussion about these species on the African > >Cichlid list at Yahoo, AfrikanCichlids@yahoogroups.com, which delineated 15 > >species of Haplochromis endemic to Lake Kivu. If any of these were > >imported, > >none of them appear to be commonly (or even rarely) available. > >> > > >A few years back I was breeding Lake Victoria cichlids and came across the > >topic of Lake Kivu (Africa). I believe there are a number of haplochromine > >cichlid species from Lake Kivu that turned up in the hobby in the United > >States. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.