Yikes guess they do My bad kevin thanks for the correction Mike. Geez these buggers are hard to tell apart at times. I guess the key is that cacs have the 3-4 wavy lines that stands out to me and was what I thought would help Kevin of course you explained much better. Dave --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote: > Kevin, > > Your "Nysante" is either a made up name or a botched > spelling of 'nijsseni'. > It doesn't sound like any location name that I've > ever heard of. > > Both A. cacatuoides & A. bitaeniata have abdominal > stripes. The broad > abdominal stripe of A. bitaeniata comes & goes > depending on mood. The > abdominal stripes on A. cacatuoides are more > distinct, forming 3-4 wavy > stripes. On young fish with washed out colors (like > in a bare dealer's tank), > the lips of A. cacatuoides are much larger - nearly > twice as thick - as those > seen on the typical apisto (including A. > bitaeniata). A. bitaeniata also has > a metallic lip spot, seen of all agassizii group > species, something not seen > on A. cacatuoides. I hope this helps. > > Mike Wise > > kkorotev wrote: > > > OK. > > If you've been holding your breath, you can stop. > > "NY" are the first two letters of NYSANTE which is > the ID on the LFS tank > > for some wild Apistos...10 of which I brought home > last week. Is it a > > location? A made-up name? Does it really matter > anymore? > > > > Upon investigation in Linke and Staeck's "American > Cichlids I, DWARF > > CICHLIDS" and the Aqualog poster of APISTOGRAMMA, > I believe these fish to > > be.... > > (drum roll....) > > young caucatoides (wild form, no orange > whatsover) > > or > > young bitaeniata. > > > > So...can anyone give me a fool-proof way of > differentiating? > > (I think I know, but some of you are so much > smarter about this than I'll > > ever be) > > > > Kevin Korotev-Milwaukee > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.