Hello Ken Funny you mention that about my Alenquers. I have gotten more males from them by at least a 3 to 1 ratio male to female.... Which is why i have extra males available... Now in my Red/gold form... i get more females. Go Figure and these two breeding tanks are on the same tier, same water conditions, same foods...just about basically the same tank arrangement too. I've set up a pair for breeding and i think they must have spawned.... that female is sooo yellow and chases the male alot. Maybe this time i'll try and raise the fry in a lower level tank, lower water temp and see if get more girls... I know i know, spawn them in the middle row tank tier and get 50/50 ratio...... lol We'll see how things go with the next spawn. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.