Hi all, i must say that for having been breeding discus for quite a long time, this hard water growth media was what was going around. What Mike W. said also makes sens so, what if fish could both access to their mineral needs by taking them from where they are available: the water or/and the food? It would not be surprising that several path exist, therefore giving more chance to the young fish to develop succesfully. Does anyone know about any research done about this mineral uptake issue? c you Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Mike Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:27 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: Agassizii breeding assistance needed Mike W. and all.................I agree with the question by Martha. I don't have an opinion here, please understand that. It's just that I have heard from people such as J. Wattley personally (I spent 4 wonderful hours with Jack at his house one Sat. afternoon...just he and I), that as soon as possible he gets the young discus away from the parents and starts the process of increasing the hardness of the water because the young fry derive a benefit from the additional calcium. Additionally, I've read it in articles! Just what I've heard folks......again I have no opinion here just curious for some facts. I will say that I have so much respect for Mike W. that what he said stopped me flat dead in my tracks! This should be a fun discussion.....some learning going on!......great! Mike Mike Jacobs Center for Advanced Technologies High School Math Instructor St. Pete, Fl. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Clark" <amazonqueen@comcast.net> To: "apisto" <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Agassizii breeding assistance needed > (Tap dancing on the end of a twig, not knowing what I'm talking > about....). > With regard to adding a bit of tap water to fry tanks, and do fry or do > fry > not avail themselves of the added mineral content.... I was under the > impression that a lot of serious discus people had played with mineral > content and have generally found that fry do grow better in harder water > than that in which they'd been spawned. > (Sitting in the corner now, covering my head protectively....). > > Martha > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.