Yes, the FTFFA still has them....they have a 20 gallon (actually 23) breeder a 30 gallon (actually 33) and a 40 gallon actually (44gallon) breeder tank. I've got 2-3 of each....nice tanks!!!! Shipping might be a "bear" for people though......from Florida? Jeeze.....it might cost 60$ a tank!!! Mike Mike > I have something even shallower. The Florida Tropical Fish Farmers' Association used > to do their own tanks. They had two different units, a 22 breeder and a 40 breeder. The 40 > was a standard footprint. The 22 is 34x18x10. Looks kind of odd to anyone who is used to > seeing tanks, but it definitely has the surface area. The FTFFA may still have them, you > can check their web site www.ftffa.com. > > Jon > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:23:25AM -0700, Mike & Diane Wise wrote: > > Bill, > > > > I don't know if they make them anymore. I bought my 6 over 20 years ago. They came with a > > sliding metal & screen top that I had to cut off. These were mostly considered "for pet > > store use only". Now most manufacturers feel it's cheaper to make one style of glass box > > (aquarium) for all. I know that there are some herp tanks that are specifically designed > > for small reptiles & amphibians, but most are tall, not wide. > > > > I like the ones that I have because they a wide 'footprint'. Since most apistos in the wild > > are found in water between 4-8" (10-20 cm) deep, any extra depth is a waste of space. If > > money was no object, I would replace all my 15 & 20L tanks with 30 gallon breeders. These > > tanks are 36x18x12"high (90x45x30cm high). These have the largest foot print per gallon > > normally available and can be stacked 4 high on most aquarium racks. They are available > > from many major American aquarium manufacturers, usually as a special order. The reason we > > don't see them offered that often is because the cost the same as a 40 breeder tank. Most > > people want the most gallons/$. > > > > Mike Wise > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.