Hey Mike, I think what your speaking of is different from what was taken out of context and then led to a lot of stupid stuff. Sorry I'm not an eloquent speaker or speller but, I think I usually can get my point across. I'm always interested in what you say Mike, I must admit I'm not much into the Latin stuff but, I guess it's pretty much over my head. My 48 yr. old brain has been through a lot and I need to save room for the stuff that help me keep my fish growing and happy. The discussion of the Apistos evolving wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion. I believe it's somewhat different from what people went off on a tangent on. Just like TV I tune in if I'm interested and I change the channel for a while if I'm not. So fire away. I can try to learn a thing or two. JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.