on 3/14/02 2:40 PM, Bailin Shaw at bailin_shaw@hotmail.com wrote: > Bring it elsewhere unless you wish to talk about apistogramma evolution. But what if I don't believe in Apistogramma evolution? I'd like to discuss the possibility that Apistos may be WAY too separated into individual species. I think that many of what we call species are in fact just selectively (natural pressures of course) bred into these variations from an original species. The best way to test this that I can see is by breeding tests. If we can produce viable, healthy young consistently then it is my contention that this would mean we have one species, with individual populations. Now this is where the controversy starts. The old definition of species would have made this quite acceptable. However, some in the scientific community would like to redefine species in a way more agreeable to their evolution-based ideas. I'd love to hear Mike's views on the subject. I would hope everyone can be intellectually open enough to allow someone from the other side to voice their thoughts. If I can only speak up if I believe the same as you do, then I find that truly sad. Zack Wilson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.