Oh Greg, I wasn't saying you were saying that. I just meant that when you (meaning people in general) start talking about selective breeding with a species, you need to be careful not to imply you're creating a new species. Just an observation or something. Zack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.