hi martha, thanks for the good tricks about the blackworms. i've notice too that they were not lasting very long when stored with tap water as chlorine seemed to kill them. I know some fish keeper who use RO to store them. take care Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Martha Clark Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:38 PM To: apisto Subject: Re: blackworms FWIW, at those times when I have an R/O unit in continuous operation, I run the waste water over my worm container. I use the blue, nesting worm keeper box and drill a few holes a bit below the rim of the outer box so that water drains out instead of overflowing, and keep it right in the sink with the waste water hose running into it. Worms kept like this are amazingly healthy and will live for weeks and weeks. They grow... which puzzles me because I don't feed them (actually, their growing kinda makes me wonder what's in my water supply!). The only caution is that when the carbon pre-filter on the R/O is replaced, the waste water is unsuitable for worms for about a day... it becomes so alkaline that it can kill the worms in a matter of minutes. When I've kept worms in the fridge and just rinsed them a couple of times a day, I found they'd do better if I added a drop of dechlorinator after I rinsed. They are probably my favorite food after mosquito larvae and live bloodworms... and the fish like them quite well, too! Martha ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto