Thanks Dave, appreciate the support as well as the other guys. I don't know about being able to sex them myself but, they were together and they figured it out themselves. I willing to learn the sexing part if there is a way. The only way I can really do that is by sitting and watching them for a while. I kind of get a feel for who's who and who likes who. If that makes any sense. I took Max's advice and moved the adults out and left the pot in the already heated tank. I took that one last chance to do a partial water change and clean a little. Left sponge and Java moss still holding some food. Also I do have micro worms and plenty of bbs. Thanks again JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto