Johnny in the snow country wrote: "..... along with my blue goop and my taped recordings of Sals singing" Maybe I can use some of those for my trifaciata trio ; ) I gradually softened their tank water to GH of 2.5. Should I soften it more? I also added some pH down since pH reading was up to 7.4. Hopefully I can bring pH down to 6.5 (despite the plants sucking out all naturally dissolved CO2 and driving pH up even farther through biogenic decalcification.) Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto