My Panduro Lyretails have finally spawned again after a long hiatus. They are in a sparsely planted 20 long. I lowered the pH to 5.3 therabouts with peat in a sack. The TDS measured at 55. The dither fish are five white clouds that apparently drive the Panduro nuts because the both are 'holding' the fry! Delighted and excited. Francine __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto