Thanks for that, I should've known that they would be too territorial for that to work. Thanks anyway, Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:50 AM Subject: Re: compatibility?? > Alex, > > I imagine that you could get all of these species > in a 4'/120cm tank, but I don't think you would > like the results. No matter how small dwarf > cichlids are, they are still cichlids. They are > territorial just like the big boys. Single > macmasteri-group males like A. hongsloi & A. > viejita, which are highly polygamous, have been > reported to claim the bottom area of an entire 55 > gallon tank. A. panduro tends to be more > monogamous, but the pairs can destroy other fish > that enter their territory when they want to > breed. Your Rams do best in warmer water (85º F / > 29º C). They probably won't hold their own with > the more robust apistos that you list. I doubt > that you would get many fry from this set up and > likely lose a lot of fish in the bargain. > > If I were you I would consider moving the Rams to > a warm water tank. Use your larger tank to house a > pair of A. panduro or a trio of either A. hongsloi > or A. viejita along with the L. curviceps. Since > the apistos & dwarf acaras spawn in different > ways, the tank can be aquascaped to make separate > territories for each species. Laetacara curviceps > (as it's now called) is robust enough to handle > the apistos listed. Other species that don't use > the bottom 1/3 of the tank will be chased away, > but not persecuted. > > As for cost, none of the species you list are > especially hard to reproduce & they are all fairly > popular. Because of this they aren't especially > expensive. I'd expect to pay closer to > US$25-30/pair as opposed to some that run in the > US$50-100/pair. > > Mike Wise > > BTW list etiquette asks that everyone use plain > text (no html) & add the following: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > Mike Wise > > The Harpers wrote: > > > Hi all,I have been looking on the net for some > > nice apistos to add to my somewhat small > > collection (a pair of rams). I have a community > > 4ft tank and a 2ft breeding tank. I was > > wondering if I could put A. hongsloi, A. > > viejita, A. panduro and Aeq. Curviceps in this > > community tanks with the rams, tetras, gouramis > > etc. Reading previous posts, I think that > > having multiple pairs of apistos in a community > > is a misconception. If I had a pair of each and > > moved them into the breeding tank, which I can > > get more of, to spawn, could I have a community > > and a successful breeding tank? Also, are any of > > the above mentioned fish overly expensive, > > aggressive, large, hard to keep or hard to > > breed? Also, are any harem spawners or trios > > etc? Thanks,Alex > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto