Mike, Did you check in the plants to see if the N. espei had eggs/fry? They are more like Pyrrhulina, rather protective of their breeding sites. Mike Wise mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > ..this business about dither fish....it is fun to watch the interaction of > females AND some males "work" the dithers....that's part of the dwarf cichlid > syndrome......but I'l tell you what folks, some of the old standby dithers are > really 'snotty' little buggers.......generally I agree with the fish that Sal > mentioned......but listen to this......4-5 days ago I had a 33 gallon "breeder" > tank with a lot of plants in it and a trio of "espi" dwarf pencils.......Randy > Cary has a nifty article about them on his web site.......I dropped in the tank > about 50-60 SMALL angels.......they were just finning out.....maybe 2-3 weeks > old......old enough not to worry about some dwarf pencils........I just dropped > them in and went about my business for an hour or so and came back and saw > about 20 dead little angels.......my first thought was there was a serious > water problem until I saw one of the pencils come flying out from behind some > plants and take a swipe at an angel.......the angel wasn't dead but > injured....and then the male pencil flew out of the same plant and finished off > the little angle DOA....it just drifted to the bottom...they weren't eating > them, just killing them....unbelievable from a dwarf pencil!!!!! > > It's a crazy hobby......these calm dwarf pencils went ballistic when the angels > were put in there......now guys these were angels with fins started, they were > the size of your little fingernail......not a 3 day old angel!!! > > Mike > > > Just my 2 cents in using Neon's/ cardinals..They will work as a group to > > snatch fry (basically when the female chases one the others scoop in and eat > > the fry).. so I would be careful in using them. I had good luck using dwarf > > pencilfish, hatchet fish, harlequin Rasboras). good luck > > > > sal > > .. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto