I agree. In all cases I can think of, I prefer the wild form Apistos to any tank-raised forms. I still think there's no nicer looking cockatoo than a nice wild red tail-spotted male with the long dorsal extensions and delicate blues and greens and all that. Still, there are those who are driven to experiment, to see what they can create. Sometimes the result is very desirable, other times it's just plain disgusting. Without the experimenters we'd never know, and it's innately human to want to know. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto